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Solved: 28. of All, Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« on: September 15, 2008, 10:27:59 AM »
Please tell me the name of the car below. Good luck!
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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2008, 11:08:24 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 15, 2008, 10:27:59 AM
Please tell me the name of the car below. Good luck!

Italian?
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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2008, 11:10:20 AM »
Yeah!
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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2008, 11:18:53 AM »
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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2008, 05:14:32 PM »
I believe that's the Zagato-bodied Panther microcar of 1955.
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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2008, 05:19:19 PM »
You're doing very well!
One point for you if you tell me the exact name of the car. All things you've already mentioned are correct.
Sorry for nitpicking!

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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 05:21:52 PM »
I close the puzzle for other players, but Quiller has to complete it, though!
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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 05:43:07 PM »
I've seen it described as the Panther 400 B Coupe. It was made by Panther Diesel SpA
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Re: 28. of All.
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 05:46:02 PM »
Okay don't want to be too strictly.

It's the Panther D 400
'D' for Diesel '400' for it's capacity.
The point is yours!
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther D 400
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2008, 05:57:13 PM »
There is some debate here. One source I have describes the earlier Colli-bodied Panther of 1954 (pictured below) as the 400 D (D being for diesel indeed) but the later Zagato one as the 400 B (B for Benzina) because it had a petrol engine. Not sure what the exact truth here but maybe someone knows it...
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther D 400
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2008, 06:07:11 PM »
You are correct.
Immediately read Roger Gloor's book article about Panther. The Zagato bodied car had a benzine engine the open Colli needed diesel fuel.
Was mistaken for a wrong sub caption in R. Gloor's book. Forgive me!  ;)
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther D 400
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2008, 12:11:59 AM »
Quote from: Quiller on September 15, 2008, 05:57:13 PM
There is some debate here. One source I have describes the earlier Colli-bodied Panther of 1954 (pictured below) as the 400 D (D being for diesel indeed) but the later Zagato one as the 400 B (B for Benzina) because it had a petrol engine. Not sure what the exact truth here but maybe someone knows it...

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it !!!  :faint:
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2008, 03:19:45 AM »
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2008, 06:08:11 AM »
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 16, 2008, 03:19:45 AM
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Was this car ever manufactured in San Marino?
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2008, 06:37:32 AM »
According to my source:
In August 1954 the "Industria Sammarinese Construzioni Automezzi (I.S.C.A.)" was founded.
It was planned to built a factory on San Marino's territory.
Furthermore the company wanted to manufacture Panther cars under licence in Argentinia, Belgium and France (with Salmson). Apart from the two micro cars also a six seater bus was presented.
Though big advertising in Italian press the whole project was cancelled. Only a few close-to-production vehicles were built.
San Marino's first and only car brand was history.
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2008, 08:52:19 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 16, 2008, 06:37:32 AM
San Marino's first and only car brand was history.

I beg to differ! I believe there were actually two other San Marinese manufacturers:

1. DECSA, which made the Lisa microcar

2. Epocar, which made the Symbol neoclassic

Photos attached with apologies for the quality / size
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2008, 09:09:52 AM »
Quote from: Quiller on September 16, 2008, 08:52:19 AM
Quote from: Allemano on September 16, 2008, 06:37:32 AM
San Marino's first and only car brand was history.

I beg to differ! I believe there were actually two other San Marinese manufacturers:

1. DECSA, which made the Lisa microcar

2. Epocar, which made the Symbol neoclassic

Photos attached with apologies for the quality / size

Unreal! Thank You!
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Re: SOLVED: Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2008, 09:39:34 AM »
I admit I don't know those brands. So, thumbs up!  :)
My post was more or less a short summary of the article I've read about Panther.
It's only related to cars of the 50s.
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Re: Solved: 28. of All, Zagato bodied Panther B 400
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2013, 10:32:55 AM »
Here´s another 1954 photo:
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