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Solved: 19. of.All., AMX III proposal by Giugiaro
« on: September 10, 2008, 09:07:07 AM »
1. Who designed this proposal?
2. For which company it was built?
3. Which car was finally presented?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 10:02:17 AM »
A wild guess; is it the prototype for the Ford GT40 by Lola, called, iirc, the p-car?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 10:55:44 AM »
Okay, I'm not so sure about this. All I could find was the car Lola built and campaigned themselves (first pic), the car McLaren built and raced (second pic) and the GTP (third pic).

Looking at it again, it looks like the De Tomaso Mangusta.
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 11:09:18 AM »
Sorry, wrong direction! All of the mentioned brands/firms were not involved.

I give you a second view:
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 06:00:32 AM »
time for a help: the car which finally was presented never got into production. It's supposed that only six cars were built.
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 08:06:53 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 11, 2008, 06:00:32 AM
time for a help: the car which finally was presented never got into production. It's supposed that only six cars were built.

European car?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 08:11:58 AM »
Not quite easy to answer. The company definetely wasn't European.
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2008, 01:04:30 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 11, 2008, 08:11:58 AM
Not quite easy to answer. The company definetely wasn't European.

South America? Brazilia?
1) You want to know the designer?
2) You are talking about the make's country?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2008, 01:29:25 PM »
Look at the first post! Think it's clearly explained!   ;)
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 06:00:16 AM »
Time for a move!
What about the Pros?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2008, 06:02:50 AM »
Any relation to the AMX III?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2008, 06:20:23 AM »
Very very good!
Finding the designer should be easy now!
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2008, 07:32:44 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 06:20:23 AM
Very very good!
Finding the designer should be easy now!

Richard A. (Dick) Teague?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2008, 07:49:31 AM »
No, I'm sorry!
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 07:50:11 AM »
American Motors AMX III would have been a better reply, but I wasn't sure that was correct. It was somewhat of a guess, because though it was similar, there are quite a few detail differences, compared to the AMX III that was finally presented. Your picture seems to have some AMX II and AMX III elements to it.

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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 07:54:00 AM »
Differing stories about the AMX III's design are peppered around the internet. Some say it was a Teague design, some say it was Vignale, since they built the short prototype run. I suspect it was a Teague idea, cleaned up and brought to life by Vignale.
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 07:54:32 AM »
Another pic:
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 07:57:55 AM »
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on September 24, 2008, 07:54:00 AM
Differing stories about the AMX III's design are peppered around the internet. Some say it was a Teague design, some say it was Vignale, since they built the short prototype run. I suspect it was a Teague idea, cleaned up and brought to life by Vignale.

Some Italians were involved in the AMX/AMC projects: Vignale, Bizzarini for instance, but the white one is definetely designed by another. It's mentioned in well known sources, but you'll hardly find any pics, cos it never was shown to the public.

BTW: Teague was the in-house designer

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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 08:32:38 AM »
Was is a BMW proposal? Or one built by Karmann?
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 08:34:34 AM »
look at posts #10 and #11!
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 08:36:14 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 24, 2008, 08:34:34 AM
look at posts #10 and #11!
I know. :)

1969/70 AMX/K Proposal.
"Body?" Dark Grey, prototype for a production run of 1000 units, to be built by Karmann Germany, later droped.
It was cheaper to build the cars in Italy at Bizzarrini's Plant.
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2008, 08:43:10 AM »
Yes that was one part of the sad story, but there's still the mystery car to solve which was somebody else's design...
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 09:32:23 AM »
It looks to have some Tom Tjaarda style to it, or perhaps Marcello Gandini, before he had his morning caffeine.
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2008, 09:33:07 AM »
No, I'm sorry!
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Re: 19. of All.
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 09:34:59 AM »
Giorgetto Giugiaro?
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