Author Topic: Classical Gas #1 Solved by Allemano, Dhoffman, @re & Paul Jaray (Read 2896 times)

Otto Puzzell · « **on:** September 03, 2008, 05:43:58 AM »

Per some hints and suggestions from P'head, Allan L, and others, this is a first attempt at a matching puzzle with a classical music theme. To test the concept, I'm trying a couple of different formats - electronic recordings of music, snippets of sheet music of well-know compositions, and, of course, pictures of cars.

I trust these will be rather easy, as my knowledge of classical music is not very deep, and because so many compositions are named "such and such number six", and other such workaday titles, that finding automobiles which share a matching name is difficult. In any case, I'm sure the classical music buffs will easily ID the music, and then be challenged with matching it to the associated car. And those Puzzlers with limited knowledge of classical compositions, the reverse should work for you - i.e., identify the cars (some of which are very easy to identify), and match them up with the composition,

Here goes - enjoy!

Car #1 1957 Cadillac Eldorado Seville / @re

Car #2 Lotus Elise / Allemano

Car #3 Gladiator 12 HP / Paul Jaray

Car #4 Bill Fredric's Valkyrie Jet Car / @re

Car #5 Nissan Figaro / DHoffman

Car #6

Music #1 Rossini's "The Barber of Seville" / @re

Music File 2
Music #2 Beethoven's "Für Elise" / Allemano

Music File 3
Music #3 "Entry Of The Gladiators" by Fucik / Allemano

Music #4 Ride of the Valkyries by Wagner / @re

Music #5 Die Hochzeit des Figaro by Mozart / DHoffman

Music File 6
Music #6 Rondeau by Mouret /Allemano

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@re · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2008, 05:56:11 AM »

The last clip won't play... apart from that it's a great puzzle. I'm looking forward to its promotion

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2008, 06:03:31 AM »

Fixed - thanks!

Allemano · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2008, 06:05:59 AM »

Car #2 goes together with compostion #1 which is called "Pour Elise" or "Für Elise" from the great Ludwig van...

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2008, 06:09:07 AM »

What is car #2? (you have to name the car and the composition to gain points)

Allemano · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2008, 06:13:45 AM »

#2 car Lotus Elise goes together with Music #1 Beethoven's "Für Elise" (For Elise)

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2008, 07:40:39 AM »

That is an incorrect match.

DHoffmann · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2008, 07:46:12 AM »

#5 car: Nissan Figaro #5 music: Die Hochzeit des Figaro (Mozart)

Allemano · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2008, 07:51:35 AM »

Did the files change?

Music file 2 'für Elise' goes together with car #2 Lotus Elise. Is that correct?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2008, 09:16:34 AM »

Quote from: DHoffmann on September 03, 2008, 07:46:12 AM

#5 car: Nissan Figaro #5 music: Die Hochzeit des Figaro (Mozart)

Yes!

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2008, 09:17:09 AM »

Quote from: Allemano on September 03, 2008, 07:51:35 AM

Music file 2 'für Elise' goes together with car #2 Lotus Elise. Is that correct?

Yes!

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #11 on:** September 05, 2008, 05:16:22 AM »

Moved!

@re · « **Reply #12 on:** September 05, 2008, 05:54:10 AM »

A couple of questions - do you want the original name of composition #3 or the more commonly known name used most often in the US?

And is car #4 perhaps named after a brutal and violent kind of person?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2008, 06:10:19 AM »

Quote from: @re on September 05, 2008, 05:54:10 AM

A couple of questions - do you want the original name of composition #3 or the more commonly known name used most often in the US?

And is car #4 perhaps named after a brutal and violent kind of person?

The names by which most English-speaking persons would know them.

As to number 4, it's a bit early for clues.

@re · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2008, 08:43:28 AM »

English-speaking, yes, but this composition has been re-written for a particular kind of use, and was renamed for that use.

Regarding car #4: I wasn't looking for clues, I merely wanted a yes or no, before I blew my guess and made things easy for others...

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #15 on:** September 05, 2008, 09:33:38 AM »

Quote from: @re on September 05, 2008, 08:43:28 AM

English-speaking, yes, but this composition has been re-written for a particular kind of use, and was renamed for that use.

Regarding car #4: I wasn't looking for clues, I merely wanted a yes or no, before I blew my guess and made things easy for others...

No, I don't believe song #3 was retitled, though I believe the venue in which it is often used might be a disappointment to its composer.

As to car #4, I'd say your original assumption was pretty good. But, seeing as it's a one-off, built for a very specific purpose, I'm going to need more than a one-word name arrived at through process of elimination of the other titles.

@re · « **Reply #16 on:** September 05, 2008, 06:08:31 PM »

Then my question is this, as I know a couple of the puzzle pieces here: Will I be awarded a point for identifying either a song or a car, or are there no points unless the pair (both parts of the puzzle) is correctly identified?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #17 on:** September 06, 2008, 06:25:42 AM »

Good question, since I didn't specify this up front. I'll award a point for wither. But if somebody is the first to ID both halves of the match, I'll give a point for each half, plus a bonus point for making the connection. If a puzzler identifies only one half, and another puzzler the other half, they each get one point, and the bonus point goes to me.

Just kidding about that last part - if a puzzler identifies only one half, and another puzzler the other half, they each get one point, and the bonus point goes to nobody.

Allemano · « **Reply #18 on:** September 06, 2008, 06:44:51 AM »

Track #3 is "Entry Of The Gladiators (the brutal and violent person(s) I guess

)" composed by Julius Fucik, unfortunately rather related to clowns' entry, but do not know the car which it's related on!

@re · « **Reply #19 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:12:21 AM »

Yes, it is. It is more commonly known in circuses as "Thunder and Blazes", which is the name it was given by Louis-Phillipe Laurendeau when he arranged it for small bands in 1910. I was going to guess that car #4 is the jet-powered Gladiator (which I have never heard of, I must admit)...

Car #6 is the Rondeau M 382 C which competed at LeMans in 1982. I haven't found out which music piece it's supposed to go along with, but I understand which direction you want us to look in

Allemano · « **Reply #20 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:26:08 AM »

Quote from: @re on September 06, 2008, 07:12:21 AM

I was going to guess that car #4 is the jet-powered Gladiator (which I have never heard of, I must admit)...

So did I, but I'm quite as clueless as you!

I do also have a clue on which kind of music the Rondeau Porsche is related on, but can't find the name of the particular track

Allemano · « **Reply #21 on:** September 06, 2008, 07:50:34 AM »

AAAhhh now I got it:
track/music #6 is Jean-Joseph Mouret's (1682-1738) "Rondeau" aka "The theme from PBS Masterpiece Theater" is related to car #6 the "Rondeau M 382 C"!

I've to admit without @re's assists I hadn't been able solved it!
He deserves atleast one point as well!

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #22 on:** September 06, 2008, 08:06:32 AM »

Quote from: Allemano on September 06, 2008, 07:26:08 AM

I do also have a clue on which kind of music the Rondeau Porsche is related on, but can't find the name of the particular track

FWIW, it's not a Rondeau Porsche. I posted a picture of this car with a Porsche transporter partially in the shot as a 'red herring', as is my way. This car was powered by a Ford DFV engine.

Allemano · « **Reply #23 on:** September 06, 2008, 08:35:30 AM »

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on September 06, 2008, 08:06:32 AM

Quote from: Allemano on September 06, 2008, 07:26:08 AM

I do also have a clue on which kind of music the Rondeau Porsche is related on, but can't find the name of the particular track

FWIW, it's not a Rondeau Porsche. I posted a picture of this car with a Porsche transporter partially in the shot as a 'red herring', as is my way. This car was powered by a Ford DFV engine.

Trapped!

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #24 on:** September 06, 2008, 09:07:01 AM »

No problem - no points were at risk.

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Author Topic: Classical Gas #1 Solved by Allemano, Dhoffman, @re & Paul Jaray (Read 2896 times)