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Re: By Design
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2008, 06:46:21 AM »
Connie?
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Re: By Design
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2008, 07:31:11 AM »
Too small for a 707 - could be a Convair 880/990, or a DC-9 series
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Re: By Design
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2008, 08:24:38 AM »
Connie?

A familiar nickname for the Lockheed Constellation or Super Constellation. Sorry, the way you talked about planes, I believed you knew it.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2008, 08:43:43 AM »
Connie?

A familiar nickname for the Lockheed Constellation or Super Constellation. Sorry, the way you talked about planes, I believed you knew it.

Oh, I did. I just wanted make sure you weren't using it as a nickname for the type of plane that Allan identified.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2008, 09:12:13 AM »
I've got it: this is the cabin of a TWA Convair 880 (thanks Allan) designed by Dorothy Draper, who also designed interiors for Chrysler and Packard, like this 1952 model.
I had recognized the TWA by the seats material design. It confused me and led me first to designer Alfons Bach, who never did a car, apparently.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2008, 09:15:53 AM »
That's not the designer my source credits.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2008, 09:25:20 AM »
Draper ? Dammit! I was really sure.
O.K., it's Harley Earl, no less, who did... the 1927 LaSalle for instance.

But it seems they worked together on this (source: Oxford Journals/Journal off Design History): "Dorothy Draper designed interiors for General Dynamics’ Convair 880, in 1958 which were developed by Harley Earl, Inc. See Varney, op. cit., pp. 183–7"
Another source, at the time the plane was developped):
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Re: By Design
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2008, 09:40:42 AM »
That's the ticket! (airline joke)  :D
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Re: By Design
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2008, 10:51:32 AM »
Oh, so it's a plane then.

;D

I was kidding.

Well, not about it being a plane.

I mean, I knew it was a plane, I was just... oh, bugger.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2008, 12:47:53 PM »
I've got another one. Pure luck, because this is TOUGH. I was searching for picture N°3, googling "Philco", and I found PICTURE N°1. It took me some time but here it is:
#1 is a 1931 Philco radio-timer, design attributed to Norman Bel Geddes, who just happened to drop by at Philco's for a short period (same as Alexis de Sakhnoffsky).
Bel Geddes, although a very important designer and visionary, had little to do with cars, excepts for a few concepts (see below) and the design of the Futurama pavilion for GM at the 1939 World Fair. He id said to have helped a bit for the design of the Chrysler Airflow, and to have designed, in 1946, a new grille for the postwar Nash. I suppose this means the 1949-50 bathtub model, because the 1946-48 grille was a carryover from 1942.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2008, 05:23:48 AM »
Well-done!

Only #3 remains...
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Re: By Design
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2008, 05:04:21 PM »
#3 is a Coronado radio designed by Brooks Stevens for Gamble-Skogmo. Stevens designed a lot of cars, for instance the Wienermobile, the Jeepster and almost all the postwar Jeep station wagons, the Valkyrie, some Packard and Studebakers, the AMC Gremlin, etc.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2008, 05:23:27 PM »
Congratulations Ray B.!
I saw countless Coronado radios on my search. Had a certain feeling that it's probably one ot these, but for some reason I've ignored to search via flickr!! (I've found the Loewy camera on flickr!)  :'(

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Re: By Design
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2008, 03:59:04 AM »
#3 is a Coronado radio designed by Brooks Stevens for Gamble-Skogmo. Stevens designed a lot of cars, for instance the Wienermobile, the Jeepster and almost all the postwar Jeep station wagons, the Valkyrie, some Packard and Studebakers, the AMC Gremlin, etc.

I'll go along with most of that, but the AMC Gremlin? No sir. That was a Dixie Duvall design.  ;)
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Re: By Design
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2008, 04:13:57 AM »
Congratulations Ray B.!
I saw countless Coronado radios on my search. Had a certain feeling that it's probably one ot these, but for some reason I've ignored to search via flickr!! (I've found the Loewy camera on flickr!)  :'(
Well, I didn't search by flickr. I spent a lot of times on google image searching for this one with sophisticated tag words and simply found it by typing "radio" design" and the choice of any year between 1950 and 1959. It was maybe in the fourth page.
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Re: By Design
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2008, 04:19:48 AM »

I'll go along with most of that, but the AMC Gremlin? No sir. That was a Dixie Duvall design.  ;)
I guessed so but I just copied the information I found on the IDSA, which should be authoritative. But you know how it is for designers (see Loewy). It's never a solo job, and you always find one taking credit for another guy's work.
"Authoritative"? Does this word simply exist? "Solo job"? Does anyone say that? Sometimes I wonder if the English I write can be understood outside of New Guinea...
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Re: By Design
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2008, 04:38:53 AM »

I guessed so but I just copied the information I found on the IDSA, which should be authoritative.
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The same page indicates no cars were built in Brazil until he "designed" the Aero Willys 2600. :)
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Re: By Design
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2008, 04:41:53 AM »
Well done, lads. Here's the points tally:

PJ   1
Ray B   2
Allan L   2
Allemano   1
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Re: By Design - Solved by Allan L, Allemano, Paul Jaray and Ray B
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2008, 05:14:12 AM »
I...ahem... wouldn't want to sound greedy, but didn't you day in your first post that each picture was worth 4 points if all the questions were answered correctly?
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Re: By Design - Solved by Allan L, Allemano, Paul Jaray and Ray B
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2008, 05:41:05 AM »
Indeed I did. My memory continues to deteriorate.

I'll re-tally.
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Re: By Design - Solved by Allan L, Allemano, Paul Jaray and Ray B
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2008, 12:58:58 PM »
Indeed I did. My memory continues to deteriorate.

I'll re-tally.
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Re: By Design - Solved by Allan L, Allemano, Paul Jaray and Ray B
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2008, 01:15:34 PM »
Thanks Ray B., meanwhile I'm a little bit afraid on that subject...  ;D

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Re: By Design - Solved by Allan L, Allemano, Paul Jaray and Ray B
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2008, 01:05:48 PM »
Thanks Ray B., meanwhile I'm a little bit afraid on that subject...  ;D
Don't worry. For some reason I think he forgot this one.
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Re: By Design - Solved by Allan L, Allemano, Paul Jaray and Ray B
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2008, 01:27:38 PM »
Sorry guys - a lot on my mind. I'll try to get to it soon.  :)
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Re: By Design - Solved by Allan L, Allemano, Paul Jaray and Ray B
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2008, 02:00:10 PM »
Take the time you need. I've a much better understanding now!  :-\