Author Topic: Puzzle #578 - RR 40/50 or 1908 Delaunay-Belleville (Read 2426 times)

Otto Puzzell · « **on:** November 07, 2007, 05:49:46 AM »

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Allan L · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:04:55 AM »

Lanchester, probably a Sporting 40 of 1914-15

Allan L · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2007, 08:07:01 AM »

Well?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2007, 10:36:05 AM »

Nope.

wilsongt · « **Reply #4 on:** January 01, 2008, 07:50:47 PM »

Hispano Suiza?

Regards
Glenn

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2008, 01:58:19 AM »

No sir.

Allan L · « **Reply #6 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:09:55 AM »

"London-Edinburgh" 40/50 Rolls-Royce

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:10:55 AM »

Not one of those, but you're getting warmer.

Allan L · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2008, 11:21:10 AM »

Quote from: KarnUtz on January 05, 2008, 03:10:55 AM

Not one of those, but you're getting warmer.

D'you mean it's a Royce, but not a 40/50 (aka inaccurately as Silver Ghost)?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2008, 02:50:31 PM »

Not a Rolls, nor a Royce.

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2008, 05:26:07 AM »

The coachbuilder of this car was also often associated with Mr. R, and Mr. R.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2008, 06:54:05 PM »

Is it based on an Invicta chassis?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #12 on:** April 08, 2008, 05:10:37 AM »

Quote from: grobmotorix on April 07, 2008, 06:54:05 PM

Is it based on an Invicta chassis?

No sir.

Go South.

pieter · « **Reply #13 on:** April 08, 2008, 06:28:07 AM »

How far south? A Hispano Suiza? before 1926?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #14 on:** April 08, 2008, 12:28:12 PM »

France

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #15 on:** April 08, 2008, 01:42:33 PM »

Cottin & Desgouttes?

grobmotorix · « **Reply #16 on:** April 08, 2008, 01:59:56 PM »

I personally do definitely not think it´s a 1908 Delaunay-Belleville with coachwork by Mulliner like it seems to be shown here:

http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3500.asp?id=11669

, but it is the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost chassis No. 2484 with Tourer coachwork by Cann Ltd. which was delivered to the Rt. Hon. Lord Carbery.

as can be read above the pic...

A well known Delaunay-Belleville (with Mulliner coachwork) of 1908 looks like this one:

http://www.supercars.net/Pics?v=y&s=c&id=2417&p=1908_DelaunayBelleville_F6MullinerRoidesBelgesTourer1.jpg

they had a quite remarkable round cooler mask.

So I think there must be some mistake in here....

Ray B. · « **Reply #17 on:** April 08, 2008, 02:23:57 PM »

Quote from: grobmotorix on April 08, 2008, 01:59:56 PM

, but it is the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost chassis No. 2484 with Tourer coachwork by Cann Ltd. which was delivered to the Rt. Hon. Lord Carbery.

I think you're right. I found this photo and I believe this is the car in its present state.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #18 on:** April 08, 2008, 02:36:15 PM »

So that´s why I think Allan L deserves the point:

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/chassisNum.aspx?carID=9102&iDNumID=1371

Ray B. · « **Reply #19 on:** April 08, 2008, 02:40:56 PM »

I completely agree.

@re · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2008, 03:05:33 PM »

I find it a bit intriguing that you found the picture of a pre-1910 Rolls Royce on the web page conceptcarz.com

Edit: I guess it's just as funny to find a 1908 Delaunay-Belleville at supercars.net...

Allan L · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2008, 04:24:23 PM »

I'm confused: I was told I was getting warmer when I identified it as a London-Edinburgh 40/50 Rolls-Royce
When I suggested you mean it's a Royce, but not a 40/50 (aka inaccurately as Silver Ghost) I was told "not a Rolls not a Royce"
(perhaps the shorthand "Royce" for Rolls-Royce confused you - it's how they referred to the company themselves, as did we who had dealings with them)
Someone said Invicta and you said go south: Derby is north of Cobham

So
it is a Rolls-Royce
it is a 40/50 (often generically called "Silver Ghost", though strictly that was one car)
it is a London-Edinburgh (or later) (cantilever rear springs)
probably about 1913 from the chassis number, but never Dated by the Veteran Car Club of GB

The classicdriver link didn't work for me, by the way

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #22 on:** April 09, 2008, 05:16:00 AM »

What do I know? Everyone here says you ID'd it correctly.

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Author Topic: Puzzle #578 - RR 40/50 or 1908 Delaunay-Belleville (Read 2426 times)