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What it is 197...SOLVED>>> Wartburg 80hp
« on: June 12, 2007, 10:20:13 AM »
« Last Edit: February 01, 2022, 02:23:15 AM by Wendax »
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun."-Patrick Henry

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Re: What it is 197
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2007, 06:04:03 AM »
Hi, that is an Eisenach racer that raced at the 1903 Paris-Wien race.On the car sits Fritz Kircheim. The man with the chimney top hat is Ernst Hammler, factory manager.

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Re: What it is 197
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 01:29:06 PM »
...but what is/was it called
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Re: What it is 197
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 01:49:51 PM »
80hp

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Re: What it is 197
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2007, 01:51:51 PM »
Somewhere Wartburg 80hp, built for the 1902 Paris-to-Vienna race,
somelse Eisenach racer, built for the 1903 Paris-to-Vienna race!

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Re: What it is 197
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2007, 03:12:22 PM »
No mention of it in "Meilensteine aus Eisenach" (Werner Reiche & Michael Stuck) - or anything under the "Eisenac" name. Where is Grobmotorix when we need him? ;D
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Re: What it is 197
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2007, 03:19:08 PM »
http://www.forix.com/8w/df2-emw.html                              for Wartburg
http://www.team.net/www/ktud/wartburg.html                  for Eisenach

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Re: What it is 197
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2007, 04:13:57 PM »
I´m still here, but my books are all packed as I´m moving this week.

I´m not sure if I have information, but if so, be sure I´ll tell you...

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Re: What it is 197...SOLVED>>>Eisenach Wartburg 80hp
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2022, 02:22:58 AM »
Wartburg was the brand name for cars built by the Fahrzeugfabrik Eisenach, s it is a Wartburg 80 hp. It participated in the Paris-Vienna road race which took place on June, 26 - 29, 1902. The driver Fritz Kirchheim reached 27th place.