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One from Allan L's archives:11.9 Phoenix engines on test
« on: May 14, 2007, 04:21:04 PM »
Not a car but engines: have a go at working out whose engine test house this was around the time of the Great War.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2015, 08:18:15 AM by Allan L »
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2007, 04:50:59 PM »
I'll start the guessing with Rolls Royce
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2007, 05:03:31 PM »
I'll start the guessing with Rolls Royce
That really is guessing!
Surely a man of your calibre can judge the size of the engines better than that
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2007, 04:35:05 AM »
It was hard to tell if these are complete engines, or just sub-assemblies.
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2007, 04:51:52 AM »
It was hard to tell if these are complete engines, or just sub-assemblies.
I did say it was an engine test house . . .
The electrical panel in the background may have something to do with the dynamometers' energy dissipation.
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2007, 05:20:18 AM »
Sub-assemblies get tested, too.

In other words, I have no idea what engine this is!  ;D
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2007, 09:23:03 AM »
Baker?
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2007, 09:42:09 AM »
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2007, 11:19:15 AM »
Looked like battery boxes sitting on top. I have never seen 180deg engine before!
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2007, 02:34:39 PM »
Looked like battery boxes sitting on top. I have never seen 180deg engine before!
If it were a 180 deg engine (and look at a Subaru to see one!) I'd agree, but those are extended crankcase sides to mount on chassis side members.
The bit standing up with the water pipe heading off top left is the cylinder block.
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2007, 02:39:17 PM »
2cyl?
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2007, 02:47:11 PM »
Trabant or Zaporozhets
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2007, 03:52:06 PM »
Looking at the arm position of the middle tester it could be Austrian  :D

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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2007, 04:04:52 PM »
None of the above - and they have four cylinders
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2007, 06:48:45 PM »
Possibly useful clue: this test house was within a mile of where I live, and the buildings are still there, though not used as a car factory for 75+ years
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2007, 01:21:20 PM »
Armstrong Siddeley
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2007, 06:02:43 PM »
Not Armstrong Siddeley
These engines were offered to William Morris for his cars when the Continental supply failed, but he did not use them.
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2007, 04:26:16 PM »
Meadows?
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2007, 05:29:53 PM »
Not Meadows.
If you look back three posts, you'll see that, unlike Meadows of Wolverhampton, it wasn't in the Black Country
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2007, 06:55:11 PM »
White and Poppe?

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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2007, 02:58:09 PM »
Anzani?


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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2007, 08:16:09 AM »
Daimler
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2007, 02:25:12 AM »
none of the above
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2007, 07:33:26 AM »
This is the sort of car these engines would power. I wonder if that will help anyone?
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Re: One from Allan L's archives
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2007, 06:22:31 PM »
I am guessing a Lanchester. They were known for horizontal opposed engines. At first two cylinder later four. That would make the picture about The late teens.

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