Author Topic: Name that custom! - SOLVED! 1942 Lincoln H-Series Presidential Limo  (Read 9645 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Stephen M

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 597
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 34
  • Rocket Scientist
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • Car-related musings
Make, Model, and Use:



« Last Edit: September 13, 2014, 07:16:36 AM by Otto Puzzell »
Quote from: Ultra
What possible higher authority could we appeal to than Steppenwolf?

Offline Rich

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 1036
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 11
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2006, 01:11:37 PM »
Gotta be a presidential limo of some vintage.  I'll return later for even more vague guesses in my never-ending quest to beat MG to "expert" status......

Offline Ultra

  • Founder, Publisher Emeritus &
  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 7506
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 20
  • More than you bargained for
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • AutoPuzzles
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2006, 01:13:42 PM »
Imperial?
“Honi soit qui mal y pense”


Click the pic....... Name the car

Offline Stephen M

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 597
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 34
  • Rocket Scientist
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • Car-related musings
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2006, 02:34:29 PM »
Gotta be a presidential limo of some vintage. 

Yes! I should have cropped out the flag more  ;D

Still need make and model. And it's not an Imperial.
Quote from: Ultra
What possible higher authority could we appeal to than Steppenwolf?

Offline MG

  • Free Radical
  • *
  • Posts: 1794
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 12
  • Designated Driver
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2006, 02:44:56 PM »
Sure looks like a Cadilliac - late 40's or so. Perhaps Truman rode in this one after he was defeated by Thomas Dewey?    ???   
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the number of moments that take your breath away!

Offline Tifosi

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 1278
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 46
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2006, 10:04:57 PM »
1939  Lincoln "Sunshine Special" Presidential limo for FDR...



Dan
"Like most of life's problems, this one can be solved with bending..."

Bender B.Rodrigues

Offline Stephen M

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 597
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 34
  • Rocket Scientist
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • Car-related musings
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 10:32:53 PM »
Sure looks like a Cadilliac - late 40's or so.

Warm on the time frame, cold on the make.


1939  Lincoln "Sunshine Special" Presidential limo for FDR...

Getting very close, but no throttle spring as of yet.
Quote from: Ultra
What possible higher authority could we appeal to than Steppenwolf?

Offline Tifosi

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 1278
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 46
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2006, 12:35:47 AM »
Is it the 1950 Lincoln Cosmopolitan Presidential car?


Dan
"Like most of life's problems, this one can be solved with bending..."

Bender B.Rodrigues

Offline Stephen M

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 597
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 34
  • Rocket Scientist
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • Car-related musings
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2006, 02:05:56 AM »
Is it the 1950 Lincoln Cosmopolitan Presidential car?

Nope.
Quote from: Ultra
What possible higher authority could we appeal to than Steppenwolf?

Offline Otto Puzzell

  • Founder and
  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 31556
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 444
  • Open field, with a window.
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • AutoPuzzles
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2006, 05:09:45 AM »
1942 Lincoln H-Series Seven Passenger Presidential Limo, AKA Phoenix 1.
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Offline Stephen M

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 597
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 34
  • Rocket Scientist
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • Car-related musings
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2006, 10:44:04 AM »
1942 Lincoln H-Series Seven Passenger Presidential Limo, AKA Phoenix 1.

Correct! Well done.
Quote from: Ultra
What possible higher authority could we appeal to than Steppenwolf?

Offline Rich

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 1036
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 11
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Name that custom!
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2006, 01:19:50 PM »
1942 Lincoln H-Series Seven Passenger Presidential Limo, AKA Phoenix 1.

Correct! Well done.

Son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin'
If ya don't stop drivin' that
Hot.  Rod.  Lincoln.

Offline GrahamClayton

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 166
  • Country: au
  • Puzzle Points 14
  • Contributor
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • Graham's Blog
Re: Name that custom! - SOLVED! 1942 Lincoln H-Series Presidential Limo
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 02:48:01 AM »
The 1942 Lincoln Custom Limousine was specifically ordered for President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Crippled earlier in his life by polio, Roosevelt was unable to go for long walks on his own to clear his head and consider the many decisions, plans and alternatives suggested by cabinet. Instead, the president went for drives, thus requiring a car that provided the utmost in protection.

Early in 1942 the Lincoln Division of the Ford Motor Company rolled a new Lincoln Custom Limousine onto the assembly floor. Due to the special fittings and alterations necessary it would be the last Lincoln to leave the Detroit factory until after WWII.

Michael F. Reilly, head of the White House Secret Service and confidante to President Roosevelt noted in his book, “Reilly of the White House,” that he had requested a “bomb proof and bullet proof car.” He added, “The armoring and the glass in these cars are capable of withstanding a direct hit from a heavy-caliber machine gun…”

Ford Motor Company custom built this Lincoln from the ground up. Body modifications included 1-1/8-inch thick 9-ply glass, a special rear mounted antenna for radio equipment (since removed), deleted side vent windows, and steel plating in the doors, roof, firewall, kick and quarter panels, floor, transmission hump, and gas tank.

The doors received 3/16-inch steel armor plating bolted into place and when combined with the bulletproof glass resulted in a weight of almost 200 pounds. This required making the doors thicker inside to preserve the external styling of the vehicle. The standard vacuum lifts for the glass and push-button door mechanisms could not handle the additional weight. The door kicker springs remained from the push buttons to assist in opening the doors. Also, Lincoln reverted back to the heftier lever-type door handles, conventional latches and window cranks. With the windows down, a spring loaded flap covered the slot in the top of the door to stop things from falling inside and jamming the windows while providing a neater, finished appearance.

The window vents had to be removed in order to facilitate the thicker glass. The instrument panel was also shortened at both ends to accommodate the thicker doors. The A-posts, now fitted with grab handles, were also thickened and widened slightly.

The fitting of a Federal Electric Company double, long-tone roll siren, the Model 77B hand grips, flag holders and footplates for the Secret Service agents made it clear that this wasn’t just another seven passenger Lincoln limousine. These necessary features contradicted the kind of anonymity the Secret Service would have preferred.

There were no modifications noted on the Assembly Plant Record card, so we must assume that the Lincoln’s engine is the standard 130hp, V12. However, necessary mechanical modifications included the fitting of an extra capacity radiator, a heavy-duty 65 amp generator, and Hydravac brake assist. A heavy steel mesh protected the engine and radiator while allowing the necessary cooling air in and the heat out. Additional ports were cut into the cowl to assist the escape of engine heat. At the same time, cooling was improved by making the radiator tank top an inch thicker, adding 3-1/2-inches to the core than standard, and fitting a larger fan. The gas tank was wrapped in armor plating with an additional plate placed in between the tank and the rear panel. Specially designed 16-inch wheels were fitted along with Firestone whitewall tires, heavy duty springs (stock units with additional leaves) and shock absorbers.

A production seven-passenger Lincoln Limousine weighed in at around 4,400 ponds, whereas this Presidential, armor-plated Lincoln tipped the scales at 6,900 pounds – a full 57% heavier.

Inside, the usual leather front seats gave way to an interior finished completely in a tan with red pin-stripe broadcloth. Auxiliary jump seats were specially fitted into the back of the divider behind the driver’s seat. A heavy-duty railing was mounted in place of the normal fabric robe rail –probably to assist FDR.

The black Presidential Lincoln was actually obtained from the Ford Motor Company on a rental basis for $500.00 per year. Quite possibly the last vehicle delivered to Ford’s Alexandria branch, it arrived on March 4, 1942 and the White House officially took ownership of the Presidential Lincoln March 7th.

On March 9th, M. H. McIntyre sent a note to Edsel Ford stating, “We are delighted with the new car which the President is now using.” The Limo was used frequently at night by FDR for drives through Washington and was often shipped overseas. Throughout its extensive use, the most historically important role played by the Lincoln occurred in February of 1945, when it was used for Roosevelt’s secret journey to meet with Stalin and Churchill in Yalta.

Following FDR’s untimely death in April 1945, the Presidential Lincoln was returned to the factory late in 1946 for overhauling and updating. Inadequate from the beginning, the wheels and tires could hardly handle the excessive weight of the Lincoln; they were upgraded to light truck 16-inch wheels with Firestone heavy-duty Transport Delivery blackwall tires that could better cope with the Lincoln’s bulk. Plated lock rings dressed-up the wheels that were no longer covered at the rear by fender skirts. A 1946 grille treatment and the removal of the running boards provided a much more contemporary look. Since Lincoln did not resume production of this model, it is considered the only 1946 Lincoln Limousine ever built.

With the introduction of the new 1949 Lincoln Cosmopolitans late in 1948, the White House ordered newer Presidential cars for its fleet. The Limousine had already been shipped to the Kansas City District of the Secret Service for President Harry S. Truman’s use when he came home to Independence, Missouri.

The car sold at auction for $605,000 in early January 2007.
"She's a beauty!" - Australian Prime Minister describes the first 48-215 Holden to come off the production line in November 1948

Offline Otto Puzzell

  • Founder and
  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 31556
  • Country: us
  • Puzzle Points 444
  • Open field, with a window.
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • AutoPuzzles
Re: Name that custom! - SOLVED! 1942 Lincoln H-Series Presidential Limo
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2013, 04:20:44 AM »
The whole car

[attachimg=1]
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!