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Back seat drivers!

The plague of every motorist. Here is their domain. Identify the make, year, and eventually model of each car.

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#1 - 1964 Thunderbird (metalshapes)                                                                                              #2 - 1954 Renault 4CV (Dynamike)

  
                     #3 - 1957 Mercedes 300d Automatic (Dynamike)                                                                 #4 - 1933 Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow (neilshouse)                                                                                             

  
#5 - 1933 Ford Victoria (Ehhxekt)                                                                                             #6 - Louis Mattar's 1947 Cadillac (pnegyesi)

  
  #7- 1958 Buick Roadmaster (Ehhxekt)                                                                                        #8 - 1950 Oldsmobile 98 (Dynamike)

  
                #9 - 1951 Nash Rambler Custom Country Club (Dynamike)                                      #10 - 1951 Ford Vedette (Dynamike)

  
           #11 - 1963 Studebaker Avanti (metalshapes)                                                                     #12 - 1953 Ford Crestline Victoria (Ehhxekt)

  
#13 - 1954 Buick (knightfan26917)                                                                                                         #14 - 1959 Edsel Corsair (Ehhxekt)

  
#15 - 1940 Ford Business Coupe (Ehhxekt)                                                                                                 #16 - 1951 Hudson (pnegyesi)

  
               #17 - 1951 Nash Airflyte (Porridgehead)                                                             #18 - 1961 Oldsmobile 98 Town Sedan (Ehhxekt)
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 02:34:30 PM »
#1

'64/65 Thunderbird

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2009, 02:45:33 PM »
 ;D

Great puzzle! 

A little disturbing perhaps, but still wonderful. I especially like the ironing board. And the sleep-in accommodations for the family on-the-go. Or maybe for the family-in-decline, I'm not sure.

Hmmm... although I can't guess any of these, it does give me an idea for a puzzle.   ;)
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 03:19:07 PM »
#16.

'48/53 Hudson Hornet.

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2009, 05:16:34 PM »
#16.
'48/53 Hudson Hornet.
You're mostly correct, but it's not as easy as you may think. Fabrics used to change every year on those cars, so I'd like you to give us the exact year. As for the model, I am not sure if it's a Hornet or a Commodore. This is locked for you one week. Take your time.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 05:18:11 PM »
#1
'64/65 Thunderbird
You got it. My source says a 1964 model, but here I can't be sure if the pattern wasn't the same in 1965.

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 05:39:23 PM »
#16.
'48/53 Hudson Hornet.
You're mostly correct, but it's not as easy as you may think. Fabrics used to change every year on those cars, so I'd like you to give us the exact year. As for the model, I am not sure if it's a Hornet or a Commodore. This is locked for you one week. Take your time.

I'll work on it... :)


# 11

'63 Studebaker Avanti.

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 05:48:15 PM »
1963 Avanti is correct.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 05:56:49 PM »
#16.

Closest match I could find to it is a '48 Hudson Commodore Eight.

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 06:39:39 PM »
I know there was little change in those Hudsons in these years, but no, it's not this one.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 06:42:19 PM »
Oh well...

My beginners luck had to run out at some point...  ;D

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 11:42:29 PM »
Wow ... this is kinda cool.

OK ... some "wild guesses"....

#4 ... Rolls Royce?

#7 ... that line of the back windows ... reminds me a bit of the '58 Impala, but I'm not sure that is it....

#10 ... Packard of some sort?

#13 ... Ford Crown Victoria?

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 03:07:03 AM »
There is a beginning to anything, knightfan: you haven't scored your first point yet, but you maybe on the way to it.

All yours wild guesses are wrong, but with #7 you've got at least the year right. The make is wrong (and I'll ask make and model for this one) but, I'm feeling generous today, you got the right big three.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2009, 05:51:35 AM »
Experts, have at it!
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2009, 07:37:44 AM »
#2 1950 Renault 4CV
#3 1959 Mercedes-Benz 300d 'Adenauer'
#8 1950 Buick Roadmaster Tourback Sedan ?
#9 1951 Nash Rambler Custom Country Club
#10 1950 Ford Vedette
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2009, 12:05:17 PM »
#2 1950 Renault 4CV  :) I have another year, but French cars didn't change on a yearly basis. You know them much better than me: so, can you post a picture of a 1950 interior to prove your point (or find the origin of my picture and give us its year).
#3 1959 Mercedes-Benz 300d 'Adenauer'  :) Mercedes 300 alright. I have another year, and this is a luxury car, more susceptible to change yearly: so, same suggestion
#8 1950 Buick Roadmaster Tourback Sedan ?  :'( Nope
#9 1951 Nash Rambler Custom Country Club  :)
#10 1950 Ford Vedette  :) I have another year: so, same suggestion

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2009, 03:57:56 PM »
Not easy to find interior pics of these cars...
#2 The Renault 4CV has got chrome grilles in the air intake, and chrome stoneguards, so it is at least a 1950 Luxe (or 1952+ Affaires or Sport), since older models and the Service and Commerciale didn't have these. The Grand Luxe had 'pullman' seats with a chrome bar on the top. I found that 1956 models had round interior lights, this one must be older. But as far as I could find out, there were no other changes in the interior...
#3 Here is a 1959 300d for sale in Holland. I found in Rétroviseur #53 an interior pic of a 1958 version, but that one had red leather interior...
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2009, 04:31:57 PM »
#10 The 1950 Vedette was the first to have a combination of fabric and skai. I found a 1953 interior which has more of the dark skai on the lower parts, so I'd say this is a 1950-1952 version. But I couldn't find any details to distinguish these...

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2009, 04:40:12 PM »
New attempt:
#8 1950 Oldsmobile 98 Futuramic...

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2009, 04:56:34 PM »
New attempt:
#8 1950 Oldsmobile 98 Futuramic...
Sure, if it wasn't a Roadmaster, it must have been a 98. Well done.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2009, 04:58:11 PM »
#10 The 1950 Vedette was the first to have a combination of fabric and skai. I found a 1953 interior which has more of the dark skai on the lower parts, so I'd say this is a 1950-1952 version. But I couldn't find any details to distinguish these...
Good guess, because this is a 1951.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2009, 05:23:40 PM »
Not easy to find interior pics of these cars... ...unless you know where to look...
#2 The Renault 4CV has got chrome grilles in the air intake, and chrome stoneguards, so it is at least a 1950 Luxe (or 1952+ Affaires or Sport), since older models and the Service and Commerciale didn't have these. The Grand Luxe had 'pullman' seats with a chrome bar on the top. I found that 1956 models had round interior lights, this one must be older. But as far as I could find out, there were no other changes in the interior...
#3 Here is a 1959 300d for sale in Holland. I found in Rétroviseur #53 an interior pic of a 1958 version, but that one had red leather interior...
The 4CV: you have defined the time range, and although the brochure states that there are several interior changes for this year (1954), I am satisfied with your reply. These changes (thinner front seat back rest, increased leg space for the rear seats) they aren't  so obvious on a photo.
The Mercedes: sure it's a 300, but not a 1959, and not a 300d (I take it that "D", then as now, is for Diesel. Why a diesel?). The seat pattern is slightly different, I don't know if this due to the year or the model.
The brochure repeatedly states the model name on every page, so I guess the pattern maybe specific. So: forget the year, I'll settle for the exact model.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2009, 05:36:06 PM »
In Mercedes speech the D always means Diesel, except for the 300d 'Adenauer', where it is just the fourth series (after a, b and c) This is the edgy model with hardtop type side windows (no pillars when you wind the windows down). Official code is [W189], whereas the older, rounder model had the code [W186]. The [W189] was built from (late) 1957 till 1962.

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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2009, 05:54:31 PM »
O.K., I made a fool of myself by showing my ignorance of the Mercedes speech, and I am satisfied.
The word I wanted to hear was 'Automatic', but I truly don't know if it was a more luxurious model with a special seat pattern, or if MB just wanted to emphasize its automatic models. And the year is 1957.
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Re: Back seat drivers
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2009, 01:18:42 AM »
#7   1957 Cadillac 60S

#14  1958 Ford Fairlane 500 Town Victoria

#18 1961 Cadillac 62