Topic: The Unsolvable AutoPuzzle

[Ultra]

No, I don't have it.  Yet.  Give me some time and I might be able to come up with one, however.

Do you have one?  A real difficult puzzle?  Something so obscure there is just no way anyone could possibly know it?  If so, we would love to see it.   Our crack team is amongst the best, if not the very best, collection of useless auto knowledge on this planet.  So, please, show us a photo of the car nobody knows.  We really want to see it.

Here is an attempt to get this one started.

[ByrX]

Cadillac Jacqueline Pininfarina, 1961.

Unsolvable, pfff...

[Ultra]

Cadillac Jacqueline Pininfarina, 1961.

Unsolvable, pfff...

The objective is to get you to post one that is unsolvable.

I posted at the beginning of this thread that I don't have one, yet.  I will let you know when I think I do.

[ByrX]

OK... How about this one?



 

[Arthur Dent]

  - looks rather like an isuzu piazza with a Ferrari badge.

The Mink microcar I posted in the Stump the Utz thread might have done - designed in the UK but built in Bermuda



Some one off brass era cars would be pretty tough too.

I have some communism country wacky car picures I could dig up too.

[cheater]

Okay, here's one I have been trying to ID for a couple of years, with no luck.

The disc wheel suggest a mid-20s timeframe

The rear deck seems pretty distinctive and I know I've seen it somewhere, but where? The hubcaps ought to help, but so far . . . nothing.

[porridgehead]

I think the car most likely to be unsolvable is one that is very rare yet looks very mundane. A car of this nature (like the Uniq T6 that Karn posted a while back) will be dreadfully difficult to figure out while a car that at least has some outstanding features will be much easier. Personally, I like interesting cars and enjoy the challenge of discovery. I've got a bunch squirreled away and will post them as time permits. For now, here's a tasty little number. Distinctive enough for ya?

Of course, somebody here will probably know this immediately.

[Otto Puzzell]

To solve the impossible puzzle
To ID the unknown Desoto
Googling, with unwavering mouse-clicks
To browse galleries of old shows

Taillights have I stared at too long
To love pure and chaste every car
To try when your eyes are too weary
To name the un-namable car

This is my quest
To ID these cars
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far

To fight for bragging rights
Without question or pause
At libraries ‘till closing
For a motorhead cause

And I know if I'll only name two
In this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
With my head on my desk

And the web will be better for this
That this site, has no un-ID’d cars
I strove with my last waking moments
To name the un-namable car

[otis89]

I think the car most likely to be unsolvable is one that is very rare yet looks very mundane. A car of this nature (like the Uniq T6 that Karn posted a while back) will be dreadfully difficult to figure out while a car that at least has some outstanding features will be much easier. Personally, I like interesting cars and enjoy the challenge of discovery. I've got a bunch squirreled away and will post them as time permits. For now, here's a tasty little number. Distinctive enough for ya?

Of course, somebody here will probably know this immediately.

That would be a 1989 Pollman Die Limousine.

http://www.geocities.com/conceptcarcentralgermany/dielimousine.html

That's the only site where I can find any info however.

[porridgehead]

I think that's the only site that has any information. That info was taken straight from a hardcover book, which is the only place I've seen anything about this rig. I think it may have been a student design exercise, but I may be wrong. You get a point for knowing it, in any case.

[grobmotorix]

Pollmann is a german car industry supplier. In the second half of the 80s they tried to show their competence with some mockup concept cars. I think none of them was ready to roll from its own power.
But they all had their own unique design and they were fitted with "future" technology gimmicks like DAT Cassette recorders ,RIM PU foam parts and such oddities like LEDs that showed the current tire pressure. They were placed outside just  on the body near the wheels...

The list, published here is not complete:
http://www.geocities.com/conceptcarcentralgermany/

These are all Pollmann concept I know:

 "Meinauto" in 1987 (=mycar),
"Die Limousine" IAA 1989
"Klipp.klapp.klein" IAA 1997
"Formelsport ´95", IAA  1995
"Autolustig´93", IAA 1993
"Familienspaß", IAA 91
and the "Borbet Cup", also shown at the IAA in 1991

(The IAA is the Frankfurt Auto Show "Internationale Automobilausstellung")


3 of those can be seen here:

http://bunnik.club.fr/1mei0001.htm

[Motorace]

 sounds like this thread is asking for us to 'give it our best shot' to stump the experts? (or am I mis-interpreting? - since that's what I thought most of the other threads were about)

Assuming you want something really obscure, try this:

[Otto Puzzell]

Yikes!

[Motorace]

Are you responding to the degree of difficulty? - or to the styling?

[Otto Puzzell]

Both!

[GRAYWOLF]

Is that another Kremenchug Autotransport Enterprise design?

[Otto Puzzell]

Obvious fake - but funny!

[Motorace]

As I'm still fairly new to this Website, so please let me know if I'm playing within the rules.   Normally I wouldn't post the most obscure car I could find because it's my belief that anyone can find a one-off that nobody knows about... but it seemed that Dr. Utz was asking us to see if we could stump him. 

I gotta admit that I thought I knew a lot of obscure cars, but I've never seen MOST of the cars posted in Autopuzzles - so my hat's off to you Karn.


Hint:
"Inspired by the Chevrolet Corvette" (I'm not making this up - Motorace), an Art School professor, working from photographs and with elements of other cars, built this car out of aluminum in his free time over two years (1956-1958), with permission from the school.  The motor is from a 4-cylinder Hanomag.

[Ultra]

As I'm still fairly new to this Website, so please let me know if I'm playing within the rules. 

Whatever rules we may or may not have you are well within.

 

[GRAYWOLF]

Rules!? We don't need no stinkin' rules!!!

[Motorace]

Whatever rules we may or may not have you are well within.

 

OK, but I'm not asking others to challenge me with one-off cars that some obscure professor built at school in his spare time unless they'd received wide publicity (the Concordia comes to mind), but cars like the one I'm posting here are so remote to my experience that I'd quickly lose interest in this game if they were all this obscure.  I just picked this one to 'test' if I was interpretting the 'Go ahead - Stump Me' request correctly.  The picture shown was found on the web, but I doubt it received much publicity outside it's home town.

[Ultra]

Yes, this is the stump me thread.  But that isn't a rule, just a light to guide one's self by.

[Motorace]

Yes, this is the stump me thread.  But that isn't a rule, just a light to guide one's self by.

Then to make it more fair & reasonable (a rule I would want to live by), I'll expand the hint with a giveaway for anyone willing to do the research:

The photographer's name is 'Bocha Balboni'

[GRAYWOLF]

Cupé Cabriolet sobre bastidor

[Motorace]

Cupé Cabriolet sobre bastidor

If that translates to "Gormless Coupe attempting to look like a convertible", then, while accurate, it's not the name I'm looking for.  The car is named for it's teacher-builder. 
I suggest Googling on the photographer's name if you want to find it (he's a slot car enthusiast like me).